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General Forum => Spectators Section => Topic started by: ken platt on March 13, 2020, 04:08:40 PM
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What happens if our beloved leader decides he got it wrong , and in a months time bans such things as CMRC events .
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they wont do that, its the best way to cull a load of old people in one hit
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yes i thought of that 2 weeks ago, apparently the young should be okay,the middle aged who work and put money in the kitty should get over it, the old and infirm can die of it,this will save the government a fortune in pensions,care costs and benefits e.g. rent allowance etc and oxygen bottles ant incontinence aids,and carers cost etc,so bugger the old,try not to tell them the truth to soon.
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Both oF you , too true , they will save £14,000 on my state old age pension , and my private pension firm will be laughing too .
A friend had to have 2 carers twice a day , before he died and because he had £27 ,000 in the bank he had to pay for the carers
at £17.50 a day , so it cost £70 a day , IE £ 490 a week . Spend your money , cos Boris and the Inland Revenue will have it
if you don`t . :'( :'( :'(
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they will save £14,000 on my state old age pension...
You must be on the SP ("Superior Persons") pension Ken - been drawing mine for a couple of years now & nowhere near that much - although I did get a "pay rise" recently of approx £3 a week - so mustn't grumble...
Interesting how "pension" (as in paid for over many years) is now called "benefit" - so we're now all scrounging benefit recipients instead of "pensioners"...
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Gordon ,
Yes , I paid SERPS because I was to old to opt out the national old age pension , watched my pension rise from
£ 8,000 per year to £14,000 over 22 years , but being as I worked for the firm I owned , I payed £81 per week national
insurance stamp . so maybe I earned it , but the Labour Government stop raises in the SERPS bit years ago . :'( :'( :'(
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ken they won't save much on me,was born in february 1945 ,two months to early so needed40 yrs worth of paid stamps instead of 30yrs,as i was an art student when i left normal school at fifteen i did not get stamps for five years.i also worked for a london mini cab company for a number of years as a mechanic.they took my stamp and tax money from my wages,but did not pay it to the relevant authorities,they were done for fraud for this and other things. i found out 5years later when a nice lady from the employment agency turned up and took me to court for seven years worth ,i had to pay three years worth all though it was not my fault. when i applied for my pension i was informed i was 6 years short of what i needed for 40 years worth,i said i would pay the difference of 6 years worth and the was in february and was informed osburne had changed the law the previous october so you could not pay for any shortage of stamps. they then informed me can only get reduced pension,started ten yrs ago on £82 per week . like you ken watched it rise with this years increase to £93 per week.my savings are going down.worked all my life,should have been a safe breaker instead.
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Arthur ,
You indeed are unlucky , and the pity is you can do nothing about it now . I`ve been lucky all my life started work at 14 on 34 pence a week for 44 hours , not even a penny a hour , on a 7 year apprenticeship ending on £1 10p a week at 21 . It stood me in good stead , after 16 jobs went from a fitter to working for myself and employing 30 highly skilled toolmakers , and 20 other staff . Did not seem hard work at the time doing a 53 hours a week , got all the bits and pieces , cars , pension , and benefits worth 6 figures a year . Purchased 8 race bikes which I sponsored over 20 riders over 25 + years , built them all myself
kept me busy . Suppose Covid 19 will put an end to all that . :'( :'( :'(
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Listened to a statistic the other day that said 17,000 people die of flu here every year, but life carries on, what we`ve got at the minute is something for the numpties to panic about which seems to be the norm now in England, went to a bike and parts autojumble yesterday out of the entire crowd one man was wearing a mask,caused great humour,so should we not worry till we`ve passed the 17k deaths and then panic
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It is beyond belief was they are saying . Self isolate do they expect a man with 2 /4 kids to stay at home from work , keep away from his wife and kids , sleep in another bed , all in a 2 / 3 bedroom house that he is struggling to pay for .
It is OK for these fool MPs , and so called expert Profs on £100,000 a year to tell the working class what they have to give up
their money is payed by us .
Have a friend who is a car salesman a buyer came in , would not shake hands , would not let him make a cup of tea , made his own , would not use their pens , got his own , would not even write on the firms notepaper , got his own . :o :o
Just hoping they do not cancel Darley Moor . ;D
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Gets even better over 70`s quarantining up to 4 months,according to the news, well they can shove that
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I've just been self isolating down the pub with some mates. If it gets bad please can any of you who have stashed 100 bog rolls let me know if you can spare one, thanks.
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i can spare you a spare flannel and a bathroom tap,just need a plummer ,the flannel is washable after use.
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Got a couple of mates doing Mallory practice day on Friday,presume its going ahead,or will they ban gatherings of over 5 people like Holland
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Odds On Darley being cancelled , to day I`d say Evens
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What told at 10 pm tonight it is still on , but they will decide on the day . ;D :'(
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I would say it's almost certain to be called off.
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with no ambulances available there will be no bike sport.
Mike.
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they will save £14,000 on my state old age pension...
You must be on the SP ("Superior Persons") pension Ken - been drawing mine for a couple of years now & nowhere near that much - although I did get a "pay rise" recently of approx £3 a week - so mustn't grumble...
Interesting how "pension" (as in paid for over many years) is now called "benefit" - so we're now all scrounging benefit recipients instead of "pensioners"...
Curiously, although my local MP and I disagree on most topics, this was one thing that he agreed with me on - State Pensions are not a "Benefit" in the sense that Benefit recipients are regarded by the right wing press as scroungers ( lose your job Friday, you're a scrounger when you make your claim on Monday) The State Pension is an annuity, paid for through the equivalent of Insurance Premiums; successive governments have tried to portray anyone who has the audacity to live to claim their pension, as a burden on the state, this emphasis is now even stronger with this near fascist mob, led by the Eton clown, and backed by Crank Cummings
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Mallory test day,friday,cancelled.
Mike.
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News from the CRMC.
Darley Moor cancelled. CRMC are trying to get another date later in the year.
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Looks like the ACU have banned all bike sport until April 30th then will decide after then what to do next.
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The way times are , bet the ban is for all this year .
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Yes suspect so.
On another theme best to leave politics off this forum, it has no place on here. The UK these days unfortunately seems to be full of knowitalls who criticise but could do no better. The current situation is incredibly complex and can't be fixed in few days. Enjoy the racing when it returns.
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News from the CRMC.
Darley Moor cancelled. CRMC are trying to get another date later in the year.
Oh please no---- I thought we had got away with it,..Lol
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Don't get to excited Derek there's no way your going to Cadwell Park this year or any other track for that matter
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Works for me my loverly bach. Self isolation is what I do best. No excuses for not being ready for next years season, assuming 'it' doesnt turn up again. I reckon my concreting, decorating gardening will all be done by end of May. ;D 8)
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Deaths seem to be increasing at about 25% per day so a crap spread sheet reckons in 10 days we will be at 2000 or more and growing unless something else happens.
Italy has it bad and Spain is next, are we just going to follow on! Keeping away from others might help us and the poor sods in hospital risking their lives to save others.
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the worst hit is bergamo in italy where my moto rumi swere made,if you type in.(bergamo italy virus news)and view the video of its main hospital you will see how deadly this virus is its scary,its a shame they haven't shown it on general tv as people will then get the truth about it.they have people in their thirties or younger in critical condition.
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Arthur , You now have the answer to everything , thanks to Boris .
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next boris will tell us there is going to be a baby boom,does this mean he is going to call his next baby boom if so if he has another one later he could call it bust,fit for now boom and bust >:(
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ACU now suspended racing till end of May..
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I very much doubt we will see any racing this year, hope I'm wrong.
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nobody will be able to afford it any way
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I'm getting the bikes ready in hope so I can push them aside in the garage and then fix some of the old British bike crap I have managed to collect and for some reason disassemble over the years. Then I can sell them for a lot less than they are worth..
That should free up some space to buy some more :o
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Two bikes ready to go ----- nowhere. Guess I'll just have to do the maintenance on the caravan that's been put off for the last 3 years!
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ive got shot of a 350k4 but seem to have gained a A65 Lightning ???
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I thought I was getting a bit too old to put engines in by myself - but needs must & it's in :)
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Guys, it’s worth heeding the advice to stay indoors
If you die, your wives will sell your bikes for what you told them you paid for them
:)
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Never thought I would be wishing for rain but I hope it does on the 10th/11th April in fact I hope it's a monsoon. That may help a little as we have to miss our first race of the season. Might wish for snow for Mallory!
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.... and it’d keep the idiots in....
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Shopping at Tescos. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-PzXlp-i08
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Shopping at Tescos. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-PzXlp-i08
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I very much doubt it Spen.
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amazing what a gun can do,i bet they called him sir as well.yes sir what do you need,just take the lot. ;D
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Yes suspect so.
On another theme best to leave politics off this forum, it has no place on here. The UK these days unfortunately seems to be full of knowitalls who criticise but could do no better. The current situation is incredibly complex and can't be fixed in few days. Enjoy the racing when it returns.
In deference to this, I've put away my pitchfork, extinguished my flaming torch, and cancelled my Wat Tyler Fan Club membership, despite the fact that Covid 19 and Politics are inextricably entangled. The A) Government and B)Police are under deserved criticism for A) late reaction to the problem B) overzealousness since the Special Powers act was passed. One doesn't need to be a "knowitall" to be aware of the slide to fascism in the UK , why, the Special Powers Act had been intended by the Government to last two years before renewal, and only an amendment brought about the reduction to six months.
I am old enough to remember the numerous occasions when the Police have rolled out their band of thugs, currently called the Territorial Support Group, to brutally suppress even the most peaceful of protest ; the Police then stand by while successive Governments reduce their numbers as a thank you!
As to this not being a place for Politics, this Section is headed "Spectators", and while not necessarily discussing Politics when at race meetings, I have often found myself talking about more than just the weather with fellow Spectators.
Life would be very dull if we had to guard our opinions for fear of the thought Police. I susoect Mr Collins's strictures are more to do with the fact that I have expressed aview different to his. Consult Voltaire for a little quote about the right to free speech :(
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Dave, you have no idea of my views or background but I was involved in the miners strike. Think what you will but I'm more interested in bikes and racing.
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Dave, you have no idea of my views or background but I was involved in the miners strike. Think what you will but I'm more interested in bikes and racing.
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You made your views clear when attempting to stifle discussion on a thread started by someone other than myself; perhaps you prefer that no discussion on Covid 19 take place,in the absence of racing itself. The pandemic affects us all, and given the opportunity to discuss the handling of it by those who consider themselves our betters, by birth and education, I felt particularly annoyed to be called a knowitall, by someone who, as you say, knows not my background, except to say that my views are not formed by the Murdoch media, or the Barclay Brothers Telegraph, and the Daily Mail.
As it happens, you got what you wanted : apart from the occasional very humourous one liners, there has been little true exchange of views on the Spectator Section's thread entitled "Covid-19". It's all very well to post a sentence on the lack of prospect of racing, but I had hoped to see some more thoughtful comment on the pandemic and its effect in the UK.
To the Mods: if you feel I have overstepped the mark, so be it, please remove me from the Forum, my posts have been few, but some people don't like the stark truth.
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My posts re GOV.UK removed, what a surprise!
Well I haven’t removed them and other than myself and the person posting, nobody else can delete them.....
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Humble apologies Spen I hit the wrong button! Yes I am a [nice chap]! I will remove my comment.
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Me as well. Didn't mean to offend. Perhaps start a politics section?
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Yes suspect so.
On another theme best to leave politics off this forum, it has no place on here. The UK these days unfortunately seems to be full of knowitalls who criticise but could do no better. The current situation is incredibly complex and can't be fixed in few days. Enjoy the racing when it returns.
In deference to this, I've put away my pitchfork, extinguished my flaming torch, and cancelled my Wat Tyler Fan Club membership, despite the fact that Covid 19 and Politics are inextricably entangled. The A) Government and B)Police are under deserved criticism for A) late reaction to the problem B) overzealousness since the Special Powers act was passed. One doesn't need to be a "knowitall" to be aware of the slide to fascism in the UK , why, the Special Powers Act had been intended by the Government to last two years before renewal, and only an amendment brought about the reduction to six months.
I am old enough to remember the numerous occasions when the Police have rolled out their band of thugs, currently called the Territorial Support Group, to brutally suppress even the most peaceful of protest ; the Police then stand by while successive Governments reduce their numbers as a thank you!
As to this not being a place for Politics, this Section is headed "Spectators", and while not necessarily discussing Politics when at race meetings, I have often found myself talking about more than just the weather with fellow Spectators.
Life would be very dull if we had to guard our opinions for fear of the thought Police. I susoect Mr Collins's strictures are more to do with the fact that I have expressed aview different to his. Consult Voltaire for a little quote about the right to free speech :(
Crikey, it's only been a week. August is gonna be brill! ;D
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Getting a little heavy here chaps . So here is a true fairy story .Went to hospital 21 days ago with Covid 19 and pneumonia of
both lungs . After two lung X rays was told to tell the wife I would no survive the night , did so .The Doctor came 3 days later and
wanted to explain why he said I would not live . Went away with a flea it his ear .
You cannot get rid of a cranky old 87 as easy as that . I`ve got the Weslake 750 and the 350 Bultaco to watch next year . ;D ;D
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New update from the ACU.
https://www.acu.org.uk/News/2020/05/ACU-and-AMCA-plan-return-to-motorcycle-sport/
Present aim to review 1 June try and restart from 4 July.
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ken just saw your post on you having cover 19, was that a long stroke cranky or a short stroke cranky you were on about,remember watching the cranky on tv one was long the other short. p. :'(
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Arthur ,
It is one of each it`s one short and one long , Bultaco short , Weslake long .
I am they said I had Covid 19 , but lucky for me they got it wrong , I believe I was one of the 10% with a
False Positive result that is I never had it .
Cranky long or short take your pick , I`ve been like this all my life , to mean to die , cos I want to keep costing
Johnson and his cronies money , Pension , NHS , blue badges , etc . etc.